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(1) proceedings ;) (2) A.M.: new lists please! (3) vario@...? link from home page to .../sympa/ (4) someone to go to Moriond?
---------------------------------------------------------------------- (1) The good news about proceedings for the Wed 23 Jan mini-workshop is that... you don't have to write them! But seriously, it's probably useful for those outside of Toru� to have a brief idea of what went on, so here's my version of proceedings - any one else is free to correct them! My memory and judgment are not perfect. (In fact, proof that I am capable of making errors in judgment comes from the fact that I thought people would only be comfortable with a one hour meeting - look through the archive and you'll see this. Andrzej M. suggested a full afternoon, and I thought he was wrong. Thanks to this list, his idea was adopted, and he was right and I was wrong - thanks Andrzej!)
The mini-workshop went well, IMHO. Starting from the general relativity basics of what scalar fields and quintessence are (Micha� F), going through Toru�'s big observational project which could in principle lead to direct measurement of local cosmological parameters like curvature, but maybe also quintessence and the details of perturbation statistics (Sebastian) and then an introduction to curvature and topology (Rafa�), we got back to the galaxy scale with Micha� H on how magnetic fields evolve within galaxies and how this should be related to star formation, with a nice flow diagram showing all the links and some nice videos of simulations, and then observational work on topology (Andrzej M) and on the curvature parameters (me). A lot to absorb in one afternoon. We even had several non-speaking participants! So, hopefully this will start everyone thinking about what each other is interested in and how we can have useful, productive conversations with each other.
Since time ran short, we only had a brief discussion on organising questions, a main result which was people just suggested I create additional mailing lists and so how their usage evolves. Hence, point (2)...
---------------------------------------------------------------------- (2) Andrzej M, could you please create the following three mailing lists on sympa, just copy all the initial properties of cosmo-torun (except for the htaccess file, these three should be with open access, so no htaccess file is needed), and I'll adjust things once you've made them and got the daemons running.
Here I'll just put the names I suggest and the descriptions.
(2a) name: cosmo-spotka description: This mailing list is for all sorts of discussions on meetings of various sorts related to cosmology at Toru�. This can include (1) Discussion of what sort and frequency of regular TCfA meetings to organise (weekly vs fortnightly vs monthly; presentations of own research vs "journal club" talks on cosmo news items vs creative new idea generation sessions vs introductory reviews; should we have a separate seminar from the regular Monday ones or just use the Monday ones? - probably all these questions should be left open and fluid for some time and will probably be answered in an evolving way - hence the need for a list!); (2) Other organising info on TCfA meetings themselves; (3) Offers by people, e.g. from around Poland or internationally, to give cosmo seminars - if someone wants to give a seminar, they should briefly introduce themselves here and say something like "hey, I'd like to give a talk at Toru�", this way the information flow will be more efficient than if it has to go through just one seminar organiser; (4) Requests by outsiders for a Toru� person to give a seminar at their institute can go directly to this list - this would help give everyone a chance at giving outside seminars. (5) Other meeting related discussion.
(2b) name: cosmo-pl description: Debaty generalne mi�dzy kosmologi w polsce, dla organisowa� badania i spotkanie kosmologi. Mo�e by� kilka rozmawiane b�d� zacz�� tutaj i przeprowdza� si� do cosmo-spotka, lub vice-versa. Nie jest problemu. R�nica: cel cosmo-spotka jest TCfA, a cel ta lista jest ca�a grupy lub naukowcy individualny z kosmologiem w Polsce. Chyba b�d� uzywa� po polsku, je�li po polsku kosmology zagraniczn�w nie jest zbytnio �mieszny ;). Wol� kodeks litery latin-2 (iso-8859-2), nie kodeks Micro$oft.
[You can correct the po polsku putting in the correct odmian przypadk�w, if you like, o.w. just put it as it is!]
(2c) name: cos-rule description: This list is for organising a workshop on the claimed features in the power spectrum/correlation function of extragalactic objects on scales at or above 100h^-1Mpc. According to standard "linear theory" of the FLRW model, these features should serve as cosmological standard rulers if they real, and initial results certainly favour this. Both observational results, for and against, and theoretical explanations, are sought for this workshop. It would be hoped to organise this for the Northern Spring/Summer of 2002, at Toru�. Anyone wishing to speak or help organise is welcome to post an introductory message here and participate.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- (3) I propose that on the left bar of the www.astro. ... page we have a yellow tage with something like "Cosmology group" pointing to
.../sympa/
so that people can easily find all four lists. If people agree, could someone do this? (Apparently vario@... is the webmaster.)
---------------------------------------------------------------------- (4) Moriond - The Cosmological Model Les Arcs, France (March 16-23, 2002)
I noticed there's special funding for East Europeans to go to this, and I don't know of many EE cosmo groups who could take up the offer... Polish people under 35 can also get funding under the "European" heading (see the page).
This would be a good meeting for learning standard stuff (e.g. for starting to think about what to do with OCRA...), and for starting to get to know other European cosmologists, but it's *very* expensive and no point going unless you're fully funded. (You had also better like skiing - talks are something like 9:00-12:30 and 4:30-7:30, so that most people ski in the afternoon... ) Officially the funding deadlines have passed, but if very few East Europeans have applied, the organisers might be happy to accept some late offers.
Be warned that any travel requires a bit of time invested, paperwork etc., thinking about the budget, but I think most of us have some travel experience. It's also a distraction from getting work done. But might give you new ideas or help you learn things.
If anyone wants to apply, it might help if you do a cc: to me which would show to the organisers that you're in contact with someone they know, but I'm in Paris for getting a visa right now so I can't sign any forms for you - and in any case, you need a "senior scientist" to sign the request for funding form. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Pozdrawiam Boud
(4) Moriond - The Cosmological Model Les Arcs, France (March 16-23, 2002)
I noticed there's special funding for East Europeans to go to this, and I don't know of many EE cosmo groups who could take up the offer... Polish people under 35 can also get funding under the "European" heading (see the page).
I dont know what infulence on the organizers you have, but all the deadlines are crossed already, for registration and financial support. I have registered and waiting for the decision about financing, which I believe should come next week. But the meeting looks good anyway! There will be some people from Warsaw CAMK as well.
Michal
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Michal Frackowiak wrote:
(4) Moriond - The Cosmological Model Les Arcs, France (March 16-23, 2002)
I dont know what infulence on the organizers you have, but all the
I don't either ;) .
deadlines are crossed already, for registration and financial support. I have registered and waiting for the decision about financing, which I believe should come next week. But the meeting looks good anyway! There will be some people from Warsaw CAMK as well.
OK, good, you can get to know them there - if you all get financed.
Good luck! boud
(2) Andrzej M, could you please create the following three mailing lists on sympa, just copy all the initial properties of cosmo-torun
Done. (Sorry for being late.)
(except for the htaccess file, these three should be with open access, so no htaccess file is needed), and I'll adjust things once you've made them and got the daemons running.
The .htaccess file is actually in /home/sympa/arc not in a particular list catalogue. Don't know whether I can move it elsewhere....
The daemons have been restarted.
(3) I propose that on the left bar of the www.astro. ... page we have a yellow tage with something like "Cosmology group" pointing to
.../sympa/
so that people can easily find all four lists. If people agree, could someone do this? (Apparently vario@... is the webmaster.)
Vario will do this.
-- Andrzej