Dear Łukasz, We have a draft version of a text here:
http://adjani.astro.uni.torun.pl/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Cosmo/OswiadczeniePrasow...
but clearly the po polsku is not yet correct.
It would probably be better that one of us corrects the po polsku in order to avoid introducing scientific errors, but it is unlikely that this will be ready by 18.00 today.
If you can wait till later in the evening, then maybe we will have a better version ready for you.
Alternatively, you could just click on "Register" on that page and make yourself your own username + password, then return to the page and click on Edit. Make the language corrections, click Preview and Save when you're happy.
I (and maybe some of the others) will check later this evening to see if the scientific meaning is still correct after the corrections, but I'll be offline for the next few hours.
Feel free to reply directly to our mailing list (cosmo-torun at astro.uni.torun.pl).
*** Please keep the URLs (http links), at least you may shift them as references to the end of the article if you don't like them in the middle of the sentence - the aim of an article about cosmology in a major newspaper should not only be to "inform" readers, but also to give the power to readers to *inform themselves*. By including URLs - even in the paper version - some fraction (10-20%) of the readers will be able to explore further and will have some independence both from Rzeczpospolita editors/writers and from CA-UMK/CAMK scientists. Maybe only 1% will really do this, but the principle of giving maximum power to the reader is a fundamental part of intellectual freedom.
pozdrawiam boud
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Lukasz Kaniewski wrote:
Szanowny Panie doktorze! W zeszlym tygodniu w "Nature" ukazaly sie wyniki badan dotyczacych ksztaltu i rozmiaru Wszechswiata.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2003-10/ns-dtu100803.php
Czy moglby Pan wyslac mi swaja opinie na temat tych wynikow? Prosze o kilka lub kilkanascie zdan - mailem, bylbym wdzieczny za szybka odpowiedz. Sprobuje zadzwonic jeszcze do Pan okolo trzeciej. Dziekuje - Lukasz Kaniewski, dziennik "Rzeczpospolita".
Drogi Panie Baud. Bardzo Panu dziekuje. Pozdrawiam Lukasz Kaniewski ps. Panska dziedzina jest fascynujaca!
hi Łukasz, i guess our communication about the text was not as consensual as it could have been - there were some misunderstandings - but it's printed now so there's not much point discussing details. In any case, IMHO the version you printed was reasonably consistent with the opinion of our cosmology group - apart from the fact that only my name was cited, so i got all the credit for the whole group.
Just one small request: could you please correct the spelling of my first name in the electronic edition (it's too late for the printed edition): "Boud", not "Baud".
thanks boud
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Lukasz Kaniewski wrote:
Drogi Panie Baud. Bardzo Panu dziekuje. Pozdrawiam Lukasz Kaniewski ps. Panska dziedzina jest fascynujaca!
hi boud sorry for the mistake in your name. We will correct it. I tried to call you yesterday in the evening, but the secretary said, that it is impossible to contact you. It was all because of the hurry. thank you for cooperation - Lukasz
Boud wrote:
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i got all the credit for the whole group.
Very good, you deserve it!
On behalf of the other members of the group i just want to say that what have finally went to press is reeeealy not bad. Well done, Łukasz! The most important message that goes to the public from that article (apart from the scientific content, of course) is that making science is - and always was and always should be! - a DEBATE. So it is absolutely normal and desirable that there is a lot of criticism whenever a new result is published. In science there is no place for "because I say so" and there should always be a plenty of room for "I don't believe it".
All in all it is very good that people have learned from that article that there is "group B" that says "group A is wrong". It's very, very, very good for science it works this way!!!!
Andrzej
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Lukasz Kaniewski