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My guess is that a one-hour meeting would be enough, but Andrzej suggested a full afternoon. I would be happy either way, but it only makes sense to do what most people prefer.

Could everyone (except Motylek who I presume is in JBO now) say what they would prefer in terms of (i) time length (ii) which time (iii) which topics? I suggest people just write their answers to the list or concatenate them with previous answers. Our numbers are small enough that cut/paste should be enough.

(i) 1 hour meeting ? one afternoon 14h-17h30 meeting ?

(ii) Mon 21 Tue 22 Wed 23 Thu 24 Fri 25 Which are impossible? preferred?

(iii) My idea of an easy cut/paste way to see what people want to talk about.

Please put a rating + 0 - in front of the following topics (or concatenate your rating to previous ones). The values are +1, 0, -1 respectively. The final ratings are added up and then we will know which people are most interested in.

science ------- + Rafa� - cosmic topology? (Just say something about what you understand, or what your questions are, or why you think we're doing things wrongly, what you think we should do, whatever! This is not an exam: we know you have not published any research papers in the subject, so there's no embarrassment if there are gaps in your knowledge. There are certainly big gaps in my knowledge. Be creative!)

+ Micha� F - quintessence? Could you teach us something about quintessence, scalar fields in a way that we all understand and can relate to our work?

+ Sebastien - something about OCRA? What you are doing, what is planned, the time schedule. How the scientific use of the data is planned (this is in fact partly a political question, which you should probably discuss with Andrzej Kus - maybe Andrzej K could come along and let us know what the ideas for this are so that nobody gets upset by us suggesting analysis plans against the wishes of the people running the project!)

0 Andrzej M - non-topology work or topology work, as you like

- Micha� H - something about your AGN work

- Boud - cosmic topology; cosmic standard ruler; or galaxy formation

meta-discussion --------------- + discussion of the cosmo-torun list, what do people think of creation of the other spinoff lists I've suggested (listed below) or which others may suggest, in particular, the idea of a list dedicated to each project or article?

0 development of cosmo-torun web pages - is anything needed yet?

Ideas for spinoff lists: ------------- * cosmo-seminar: For organising meetings (whatever the title, "journal club", "seminar", "workshop", "conference") in Toru� and/or Warsaw and/or other Polish cities (e.g. there's a theoretical cosmo group in Krak�w). I suggest no access restrictions, since no "unpublished research ideas" are likely to be posted here.

* cosmo-pl: For general discussion, organisational, scientific, whatever, among Polish cosmologists and extragalacticians. Again, no access restrictions.

* topo-rlagn: [cosmic topology radio-loud AGN projects] * ocra: Sebastian Sober ?

* shape-univ: I've offered to Andrzej Woszczyk and said to some students that I would be happy to teach a "monograph course" on observational constraints on the shape of the Universe (curvature + topology) during the next semester (which I believe starts 18th Feb 2002).

* other Are there any existing lists? Someone told me something about a list called astronomia@astri.uni.torun.pl . It seems to me one list which could be useful (for publicity purposes) would be one for discussing TCfA web pages. It's not always obvious what changes are good ones, and it's a lot of pressure on the webmaster if he/she alone has to decide to accept/reject suggestions/requests. A mailing list would make the decisions more collective.

Pozdrawiam, Boud

Summary: These are the questions which it would be good to answer or give a rating to (respectively) in order that the meeting can be in the best interests of everybody! Just cut, paste and edit!

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(i) 1 hour meeting ? one afternoon 14h-17h30 meeting ?

(ii) Mon 21 Tue 22 Wed 23 Thu 24 Fri 25 Which are impossible? preferred?

(iii) Please add + 0 - to the beginning of each line. You can add other lines for discussion if you wish!

+ Rafa� - cosmic topology? (Just say something about what you + Micha� F - quintessence? Could you teach us something about quintessence, + Sebastien - something about OCRA? What you are doing, what is planned, 0 Andrzej M - non-topology work or topology work, as you like - Micha� H - something about your AGN work - Boud - cosmic topology; cosmic standard ruler; or galaxy formation + discussion of the cosmo-torun list, what do people think of creation 0 development of cosmo-torun web pages - is anything needed yet? ======================================================================